Honest, logical ways to refute documentary hypothesis.
For 3400 years (until the 1830s) every capable person believed that Moses wrote the Torah.
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To tell Pharoah that Israel is God's firstborn son (note the gender neutral discussions).Exodus 4:22
However, if you read the Torah from Exodus 4 to Exodus 20, you will not find those words, until before the 10th plague.
Now if you haven't met with God, if you haven't read the holy bible, if you haven't prayed to God, then you should just find another thing to focus your eyeballs on.
How did you feel when God spoke?
One needs to obey God, that's part and parcel of trusting Lord Jesus like you're in a boat in the midst of a storm.
But Moses didn't say those words in the same order that God said.
At the 10th plague, Moses said all those words, perhaps in God's grammatical order (in real life and not recorded) but not according to what is recorded in Exodus.
The meaning of Exodus 4:22 is to say God loves Israel, Pharoah should let Israel Go free. or straightly Israel is God's firstborn son.
The meaning of Exodus 11:3-8 is similar: that God makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt; That God loves Israel contrasted to hating the firstborn ons of Egypt.
And furthermore Pharoah would have heard those words, through word-of-mouth from his servants, because it says that Moses spoke to the servants of Pharoah too.
Sidenote: In the Hebrew and English, I bet it's possible Moses stood above (gadol) the people (on a pulpit?) or means as it says great in respect/authority/mana/impressiveness. Exodus 11:3 is markedly different. https://biblehub.com/text/exodus/11-3.htm Nope, from what I can tell, the translation is pretty spot-on with the word "gadol" for great/many/large/loudly/rich.
Exodus 11:8 https://biblehub.com/text/exodus/11-8.htm, translates into English, that Moses communicates he'll 'go out' and then walked away from Pharaoh (went out). but could it be mistranslated from "ese wayese" meaning I shall go out and we/shall go out",
I don't know Hebrew. I'll trust the English translation. How did Moses feel about causing the 10 plagues? It was his home country that was devastated by the 10 plagues.
Guilt?
For the natural disasters:
Regret?
Why regret? Did anyone regret anything in the olden days of Moses, 3500 years ago?
Yes. Regret is needed when confronted by the laws.
Satisfaction?
Did he feel powerful or humbly awed?
The holy bible presents Moses as being humbled and 'merely a man', we can't underestimate the weakness of the 80+ year old.
Yes, miraculously, thank God, Moses' strength never abated, and his eyesight remained sharp.
So, then...
What if Moses himself, in his personal reflections on Exodus 4:22, thought that he should have simply said that phrase the first time he met Pharoah...
Well if he did self-reflect on that moment, even once, then Moses would realize that regret, relive those 10 plagues,
Every time Almighty God told him to write something down, or say something to the Nation of Israel.
So here we have the 10 plagues teaching our one man Moses, to do what God says.
And someone said that it was Moses striking the rock rather than speaking to the rock, which prevented him from joining Joshua and walking through the river Jordan...
So good thing we're connected to the body of Jesus.
Deuteronomy 34 is used by scientific atheists/apatheists to say "who wrote about Moses' burial"?. (because speaking in questions is a bit of a fashion statement.)
But we all must, within a society, write a will of some sort.
we all must organize our own burial, in our old age.
And nobody 3500 years ago, would glorify Moses by calling him a "humblest man on earth", that's a very magnanimous thing to say, really. they call him the great leader or whatever. What are the tombs like in Egypt? Pyramids? Yet not even a marker? 200 years ago, Europeans thought the Pyramids of Egypt were Joseph's Granary (hollow pyramids). and by the time of Davidic kingdom, who can say who placed the Ark of Covenant sized stone box in pyramids. some sneaky person that can chip off the noses of Egyptian statues.
anyway...
Lord Jesus saw Moses on the transfiguration on the Mount, along with Saint Peter, and Saint John.
Moses was alive or appeared to be alive to them!!
so... what does that mean? well in "apocalypse of Saint Peter" (the 100 A.D. biblical book (it was actually in the earliest canon ever (the muratorian canon))
and was described as 'too hard' for some groups of Christians before 300 A.D. by Eusebius as he discusses the canon of scripture. )
mentions what Peter saw, during the transfiguration on the mount.
Heaven of the high-priests, and the hell of the soldiers and adulterers.
That is why or rather, how, Moses could be alive to Lord Jesus and Peter and John. remember... this Jesus Christ is the same person who is alive today in the rain clouds above planet earth. he is so very very special he was seated at the hand of the Father, AFTER resurrection
but we saw the Father of all, in Jesus.
yea... the faithful people are told by the Holy Spirit of truth, about dimensions.
sorry for calling scientific atheists = snakes. sorry about villainizing real species of snakes.
Question-asking scientists destroying the world. Looking at Genesis 3:1-5 and the scientific method shows why science takes the snake's hypothesis "anti "
(evolution of religion = animism->spiritualism->polytheism->monotheism)
2) The modern governments who have similar laws to Torah, and also respect the 10 commandments (Christians don't actually respect the 10 commandments, especially after the reformation, but hey!!, tomatoes tomatoes)
yet modern governments have been spending all of their citizens' taxes, for countless generations, over hundreds and thousands of years, honing their laws, and still, there are criminals, crimes and the 10 commandments are broken.
so why then presume that one man (Moses), before anyone else even had a written language, wrote all the Torah, which today is basically perfect, in terms of the future predictions, and applications.
It's an insult to modern governments that Moses accomplished what they (we collectively) fail to do 3) the government/kingdom perpetuated a conspiracy against its people.
So, if a single person (let's say bill) against another person (bob) were conversing the same way science treats religion.:
1) "hey bob, I think when you say 'you' you mean 'thou', but since you never say 'thou' anymore, I'm going to suggest that you've forgotten English", that's in critical reasoning, an "Ad hominem" fallacy.
2) "hey bill, like my tent? say hi to my wife inside"
"hey bob, since I can't build a tent nor can I get my wife to sit quietly, you probably didn't make that tent, and that's just some random lady that likes to sit down."
that's just case of sour-grapes.
3) "bob, you hired someone to build that tent for you, didn't you? and that wife is just some paid actor? or do you really pretend that the paid actor is your wife?"
that's paranoid delusions
since there are lots of Nazis, and the whole world war 2, was about paranoid delusions, I'll just point out, what successfully healed mental health patients know:
para = besides
noia = thoughts|knowledge
para-noia = parallel to reality.
so when someone says "oh you ignored me, I think that means you want to fight", that's textbook paranoia, because you purposely ignore them in truth, and in truth, they think you want to actually fight fisticuffs with them.
If you don't know about the documentary hypothesis visit http://legfishaquaponics.blogspot.com/search?q=redemption
1) The emotional effect of the 10 plagues (of Egypt) on Moses.
Moses obeyed God in Exodus 4:22 at the 10th plague, Pharoah believed Moses then. waited 9 plagues to say that, and so Moses learnt to say quickly what God asked Moses to say which is what we see in the Holy Bible's Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Numbers and Exodus.
Moses met with Almighty God at the burning bush. in Exodus 4.
In Exodus 4:22 Moses is given a specific instruction =To tell Pharoah that Israel is God's firstborn son (note the gender neutral discussions).Exodus 4:22
However, if you read the Torah from Exodus 4 to Exodus 20, you will not find those words, until before the 10th plague.
Now if you haven't met with God, if you haven't read the holy bible, if you haven't prayed to God, then you should just find another thing to focus your eyeballs on.
How did you feel when God spoke?
One needs to obey God, that's part and parcel of trusting Lord Jesus like you're in a boat in the midst of a storm.
But Moses didn't say those words in the same order that God said.
At the 10th plague, Moses said all those words, perhaps in God's grammatical order (in real life and not recorded) but not according to what is recorded in Exodus.
The meaning of Exodus 4:22 is to say God loves Israel, Pharoah should let Israel Go free. or straightly Israel is God's firstborn son.
The meaning of Exodus 11:3-8 is similar: that God makes a distinction between Israel and Egypt; That God loves Israel contrasted to hating the firstborn ons of Egypt.
And furthermore Pharoah would have heard those words, through word-of-mouth from his servants, because it says that Moses spoke to the servants of Pharoah too.
Sidenote: In the Hebrew and English, I bet it's possible Moses stood above (gadol) the people (on a pulpit?) or means as it says great in respect/authority/mana/impressiveness. Exodus 11:3 is markedly different. https://biblehub.com/text/exodus/11-3.htm Nope, from what I can tell, the translation is pretty spot-on with the word "gadol" for great/many/large/loudly/rich.
Exodus 11:8 https://biblehub.com/text/exodus/11-8.htm, translates into English, that Moses communicates he'll 'go out' and then walked away from Pharaoh (went out). but could it be mistranslated from "ese wayese" meaning I shall go out and we/shall go out",
I don't know Hebrew. I'll trust the English translation. How did Moses feel about causing the 10 plagues? It was his home country that was devastated by the 10 plagues.
Guilt?
For the natural disasters:
Regret?
Why regret? Did anyone regret anything in the olden days of Moses, 3500 years ago?
Yes. Regret is needed when confronted by the laws.
Satisfaction?
Did he feel powerful or humbly awed?
The holy bible presents Moses as being humbled and 'merely a man', we can't underestimate the weakness of the 80+ year old.
Yes, miraculously, thank God, Moses' strength never abated, and his eyesight remained sharp.
So, then...
What if Moses himself, in his personal reflections on Exodus 4:22, thought that he should have simply said that phrase the first time he met Pharoah...
Well if he did self-reflect on that moment, even once, then Moses would realize that regret, relive those 10 plagues,
Every time Almighty God told him to write something down, or say something to the Nation of Israel.
So here we have the 10 plagues teaching our one man Moses, to do what God says.
And someone said that it was Moses striking the rock rather than speaking to the rock, which prevented him from joining Joshua and walking through the river Jordan...
So good thing we're connected to the body of Jesus.
2) The will and testament in Deuteronomy 34
Deuteronomy 34 is used by scientific atheists/apatheists to say "who wrote about Moses' burial"?. (because speaking in questions is a bit of a fashion statement.)
But we all must, within a society, write a will of some sort.
we all must organize our own burial, in our old age.
And nobody 3500 years ago, would glorify Moses by calling him a "humblest man on earth", that's a very magnanimous thing to say, really. they call him the great leader or whatever. What are the tombs like in Egypt? Pyramids? Yet not even a marker? 200 years ago, Europeans thought the Pyramids of Egypt were Joseph's Granary (hollow pyramids). and by the time of Davidic kingdom, who can say who placed the Ark of Covenant sized stone box in pyramids. some sneaky person that can chip off the noses of Egyptian statues.
anyway...
Lord Jesus saw Moses on the transfiguration on the Mount, along with Saint Peter, and Saint John.
Moses was alive or appeared to be alive to them!!
so... what does that mean? well in "apocalypse of Saint Peter" (the 100 A.D. biblical book (it was actually in the earliest canon ever (the muratorian canon))
and was described as 'too hard' for some groups of Christians before 300 A.D. by Eusebius as he discusses the canon of scripture. )
mentions what Peter saw, during the transfiguration on the mount.
Heaven of the high-priests, and the hell of the soldiers and adulterers.
That is why or rather, how, Moses could be alive to Lord Jesus and Peter and John. remember... this Jesus Christ is the same person who is alive today in the rain clouds above planet earth. he is so very very special he was seated at the hand of the Father, AFTER resurrection
but we saw the Father of all, in Jesus.
3) Lack of mention of dimensions by snake-tricker people
yea... the faithful people are told by the Holy Spirit of truth, about dimensions.
sorry for calling scientific atheists = snakes. sorry about villainizing real species of snakes.
Question-asking scientists destroying the world. Looking at Genesis 3:1-5 and the scientific method shows why science takes the snake's hypothesis "anti "
4) influence (Eisegesis) of contemporary western political views into Documentary hypothesis' view of Old Testament.
the basic theme of documentary hypothesis is this:
1) there's no reason why we would call our imaginary deity, whom we adopted to save after the Israel nation collapsed like the Romans collapsed. a plural in Genesis 1, and singular in Genesis 2, unless there were multiple authors separated by the evolution of religions.(evolution of religion = animism->spiritualism->polytheism->monotheism)
2) The modern governments who have similar laws to Torah, and also respect the 10 commandments (Christians don't actually respect the 10 commandments, especially after the reformation, but hey!!, tomatoes tomatoes)
yet modern governments have been spending all of their citizens' taxes, for countless generations, over hundreds and thousands of years, honing their laws, and still, there are criminals, crimes and the 10 commandments are broken.
so why then presume that one man (Moses), before anyone else even had a written language, wrote all the Torah, which today is basically perfect, in terms of the future predictions, and applications.
It's an insult to modern governments that Moses accomplished what they (we collectively) fail to do 3) the government/kingdom perpetuated a conspiracy against its people.
So, if a single person (let's say bill) against another person (bob) were conversing the same way science treats religion.:
1) "hey bob, I think when you say 'you' you mean 'thou', but since you never say 'thou' anymore, I'm going to suggest that you've forgotten English", that's in critical reasoning, an "Ad hominem" fallacy.
2) "hey bill, like my tent? say hi to my wife inside"
"hey bob, since I can't build a tent nor can I get my wife to sit quietly, you probably didn't make that tent, and that's just some random lady that likes to sit down."
that's just case of sour-grapes.
3) "bob, you hired someone to build that tent for you, didn't you? and that wife is just some paid actor? or do you really pretend that the paid actor is your wife?"
that's paranoid delusions
since there are lots of Nazis, and the whole world war 2, was about paranoid delusions, I'll just point out, what successfully healed mental health patients know:
para = besides
noia = thoughts|knowledge
para-noia = parallel to reality.
so when someone says "oh you ignored me, I think that means you want to fight", that's textbook paranoia, because you purposely ignore them in truth, and in truth, they think you want to actually fight fisticuffs with them.
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